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i was thinking that we have the availability of the holy spirit, to hear within our spirits what god speaks. what happens much of the time, is we're reminded of scripture. sometimes, though, we can get a line of thought that's sort of like a new idea. to me it feels like i have just found out the truth about something, and know it for sure. has this ever happened with you?

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So are you saying that a lot of times when we hear the Holy Spirit, he reminds us of stuff in the bible, but sometimes he tells us something new that we haven't really heard before? Opened our eyes to something?

I'm not sure... can you give me an example of something he said to you? Like I'm not sure if it's God the Father, the Holy Spirit, or Jesus talking, but either way, I know they've said stuff like "pray with your sister tonight", he once put in my hear to finish reading the bible (which I did!), he told me about what my career will be.. but mainly stuff like that. Once he helped me with a math problem.. I was so shocked because of all the things he could talk to me about, he chose that. It meant a lot though because it shows that he cares about all the areas of our lives, even the smaller areas. Every part of our lives matter to him.

I dunno if I've learned so major truths. I keep listening for him though. What do you hear?
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sorry, i was trying to change the color of my sig link.
the most recent times were scripture references. but one time i was walking and praying, and 'the kingdom', one word, came to me. i wondered what that meant, cause it was like out of the blue. later, i came to learn more about 'the kingdom', and how it really was jesus' main message.

also, when i was younger, i was walking through the same fields (that's why i walk there now, but it's covered with an apartment complex now), and i was wondering what was the point of life. it came to me, 'to please god'.
Phl 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of [his] good pleasure.

when i told you about the rod and staff for guiding and protecting sheep, i learned that from god. another time, he let me know what you found out, that he uses anything to teach us (which stands to reason, since he created it all).

Jhn 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, [that] shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
Jhn 16:14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew [it] unto you.

i have had this 'knowing' enough times that i believe it's god speaking.
1Ki 19:12 And after the earthquake a fire; [but] the LORD [was] not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice.
Isa 42:2 He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street.
 

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oh, and for the kingdom:
Mat 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

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Sorry about taking so long to respond.. I've been working right after school and was stressed because of exams and what not. Lol

It's so cool that you try to return to the same place where you heard God speaking to you before, even though the apartment complex is there now. He just might show up again.

I know I've felt like that, trying to return to certain things to hear God's voice. For example, I was sitting in a room at my church one day, and one of the preachers told me that God wanted me to read something in Nehemiah. I couldn't remember exactly what, because in the room, we were discussing some serious issues I had, and I was all freaked out and couldn't focus on that. I wish I could have, though! I regret that I have no idea what the passage was, so I've been searching through Nehemiah and trying to take in the whole message, and maybe have some insight into what God wanted me to read. It means too much for me not to care.

I find myself constantly trying to go up and beyond for him. Like when he told me to pray with my sister that night, I prayed with her that night and a bunch of nights after that. I was trying to go above and beyond what he said, because he goes above and beyond for us:

Malachi 3:10 Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,” says the LORD Almighty, “and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that there will not be room enough to store it.

So if we do even the bare minimum he asks of us, he will bless us more than we deserve to be blessed. So since he goes up and beyond for me, I do the same for him. Jesus dying for me was going up and beyond for me. I can't stand when people just settle for doing the bare minimum that God wants. I've always felt like that. emoticon

That knowing feeling is really awesome. I just wish I had a way to tap into that power more. I was reading that website you gave me the link to, and it might take me some time to figure out how to get the Lord to speak to me more. Do you know anything specifically that works? I talk to God everyday, just in case he decides to speak up.

Sometimes, he won't actually say words to me, but put in my heart what he wants me to do, with like a feeling that I know is from him, and I like those, too. He is always very calm and sweet and loving when he speaks to me. It's so funny because sometimes when my preacher talks about how God speaks to him, it's like God obviously knows he does some stupid stuff and he treats him as if he is ignorant a lot of times. I guess it's just the different nature of our hearts. Maybe he's more stubborn towards God than me sometimes. lol
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ah the internet went down and i had to rewrite this reply...

you have a lot of things to think about. i like that you obey what god tells you. i'll pray that he blesses you more and more.

i can tell that you have god's spirit, like you said, calm and sweet and loving. i would add that you seem patient.

you asked what might help to make god speak to you more. it's not really up to us, but the website tells about meditation, not like an eastern thing in order to tap into power, but like simply listening. you quiet your mind, that's racing here and there, enough to actually attempt to hear the calm small voice of god. it's the spirit of god in us that will relay thoughts to our heart and mind.
Rom 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
Rom 8:27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what [is] the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to [the will of] God.

god will speak when he chooses.
Jhn 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

he reminded me about john 5, where the pool is disturbed by an angel, but some man is too lame to reach it, so jesus heals him. it's like that with the spirit, that we're too spiritually lame to enter into the waves that god's making. so we have to come to jesus, as our only hope.

i'm happy to listen to your words of faith, and i thought that the 'jc' in your art was for jesus christ, lol.

  

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Thanks! I prayed for you, too.

I think I am going to try meditation. Like maybe 10 minutes every morning, I want to pray to God, asking him to tell me what he would like me to accomplish that day. Then I'll hush my heart and listen for his answer. I remember the first time that I did that, I did not get an answer with words, and I had been really sad and about to cry earlier. A few minutes after I stopped the meditating, the pieces started falling into place in my heart. I was thinking "yeah, I'm sad and feel like crying, but this pain hurts so much less than the pain I used to feel when Jesus was not with me at all. This pain with him feels better than the joy I had when my heart was in the world." It felt really amazing. I felt like getting up and dancing and being happy, it made me feel so awesome.

Even if he doesn't speak sometimes, I don't mind him answering my prayers like that. He answered how I could feel better without saying anything. I'll keep listening. Do you meditate daily?

I love Rom 8:26 because sometimes I feel really weak and I don't know how to ask God for exactly what I need, so I pray that the Spirit will tell him exactly what I need. I know he knows the contents of my heart, and I know he knows how to heal me better than I know how to heal myself. So I love this verse! emoticon

Lol, you mean JC on the picture? Haha I always wonder if people will think I'm talking about Jesus. It's actually Jennifer Clayton, my name. Maybe I should use my whole name next time. By the way, what's your real name? It's crazy that we've started talking and I don't really know your name.

Romans 3:11 He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the human heart; yet no one can fathom what God has done from beginning to end

I try to remember that God does things in his own time, not my own time. So I have to be patient. I know it may seem like he is taking forever, but that's okay:

2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

I pray that you and I have more patience, I know God has plan for me, and you, and everyone else. emoticon

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i'll send my name in a pm, when i get your reply back emoticon
i don't meditate every day, but i do it pretty regularly. i'm wanting to get to the point i can listen while doing anything.

i'm glad you talked about patience. i do think god wants us to learn patience, because it's a part of faith, also a part of humility. like, sometimes i want an answer, but i realize if i just give it some time, god will answer in his own way.

i'm glad that god comforted you, since that's what the holy spirit is called. also, you were wondering who was speaking, and i think it's the spirit speaking through your mind. they say he also speaks audibly, but i've not heard that (which may be scary).

and, i'm glad you know that god reads your heart, cause you'll learn that you don't really even need words, just a simple impulse, especially when you're communicating spiritually, which requires nothing physical (which bogs the mind down anyway).

i think that's why there's such a 'knowing' when god imparts knowledge, because we're so used to thinking in serial, with one thought or word after the next. but god can 'upload' to our minds in parallel (all at once). i also believe he can work within us, without our even knowing what he's doing (with our invitation of course). after all, the lame man had no idea how his body was being healed by jesus. he just knew the results.

i'm glad you're willing to try listening. the early quakers were called 'quietists', since they listened more than spoke. if you don't have any expectation, you can find out what he wants you to know. like, if you put your will aside to find out his.

a verse about patience:
Dan 10:12 Then said he unto me, Fear not, Daniel: for from the first day that thou didst set thine heart to understand, and to chasten thyself before thy God, thy words were heard, and I am come for thy words.
Dan 10:13 But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.
Dan 10:14 Now I am come to make thee understand what shall befall thy people in the latter days: for yet the vision [is] for [many] days.



 

 



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sorry- I get busy with work and stuff. I hate that 'cause I really enjoy talking to you. emoticon

Anyway, I like how you were talking about how God reads your heart. It is so true! My pastor was once talking about how one time, there was this group of people in church, and there were a bunch of wealthy people who were tithing and what not, and they could tithe a lot. Then, there was one lady there who was really poor, and could really only give some change to the church. That was all she really had, and she gave it all. My pastor said God told him that what the lady gave was worth much more than what the men gave. He saw what was in her heart.

She had little, but she gave it all with a heart fully in love with God. The men had plenty to give, and gave a lot more, but their hearts were not in it like hers. She was desperate, it took more love for Christ to give that money. The men weren't, and so it was easy and didn't really come from the heart.

I always try to live by making sure that I love Jesus, inwardly. Yeah, you can go to church and give and talk about Jesus. But what he is really concerned about is the changed heart. I try to make sure that in my heart, I trust him, love him, show humility towards him. The inward love will eventually be reflected into the things I do, such as giving more, praying more, etc. But the change must start inwardly at first.

1 Samuel 16: 7 But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not look on his appearance or on the height of his stature, because I have rejected him. For the Lord sees not as man sees: man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart.”


I feel like I keep putting mediation off, but I am certain it helps. You can always grow from spending time with God like that. What else do you do to spend your time with God? I try praying, reading the bible daily... when I'm heart broken, I write down the things that are bothering me, and then find encouraging bible quotes on them... of course, I draw, write poetry, sing, give money for his name.. I have so much love in my heart for Jesus, that I try to make sure that literally everything I do reflects how much I love him. I. e. working. I work so I can tithe and give to charities that give people clothes and food but also tell about Jesus.

I'm always trying to outdo myself, lol. Like an endless competition with myself... to be the best me I can be for Christ.
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yes, it really shows. part of being a christian is growing. honestly, i think that god has to grow us, cause like a plant, we can't water and feed ourselves. so i'm wondering if i'll get to a point where i'm allowing god to grow me.

i think also, that even if you're not meditating, you can hear at times, from god. oh, and i totally understand working, especially if you don't work near a computer.

did you get my test pm, so i know i'm sending to the right person? that way i can send my name, but i'll tell you i'm 43 cause i already put that on d.a. that's why i said that i've been looking for the info for many years. god led me to a place where i could understand a few things. now, i hope that open hearts like yours can learn, and not have to search forever for something useable in christianity.

the fact that you're humble enough to have faith that god is real, will help you to grow. and thanks for getting back to me emoticon

oh, and to spend time with god, i read the bible, i try to love and be open to people, to see how god speaks and works through me. and of course i give to those i see in need. on the other side of it, i think it's a struggle to not do what god dislikes. i'm still learning, so like i said, perhaps there'll come a point where i'm growing in a way that is really evident.

also, you were talking about pain, and feeling god's love. i have all of a sudden felt a lot of love, when i was feeling sad. i think it was too much love and peace to not be god. i would beg god not to leave, but i know he's always here. i just wanted to feel that love all the time. that may be why it's so important to grow in god's spirit, cause we can love each other like that.

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